Comments on: EP 200: All You Zombies http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/ The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine. Each week Escape Pod delivers science fiction short stories from today's best authors. Listen today, and hear the new sound of science fiction! Tue, 08 May 2012 17:42:01 +0000 hourly 1 By: Escape with three geeky podcasts | Geekend | TechRepublic.com http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-13298 Escape with three geeky podcasts | Geekend | TechRepublic.com Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:01:12 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-13298 <p>[...] with 21st century stories sprinkled with classics. For instance, you’ll find Heinlein’s All You Zombies and Asimov’s Nightfall, as well as Katherine Sparrow’s Pirate [...]</p> [...] with 21st century stories sprinkled with classics. For instance, you’ll find Heinlein’s All You Zombies and Asimov’s Nightfall, as well as Katherine Sparrow’s Pirate [...]

]]> By: ryan http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12971 ryan Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:21:23 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12971 <p>We did a story like this in Philosophy to illustrate the paradox of time travel.</p> We did a story like this in Philosophy to illustrate the paradox of time travel.

]]> By: rubber_wonder_boy http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12961 rubber_wonder_boy Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:18:33 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12961 <p>I'm interested in knowing, what's "Old Underwear"? Would be like absinthe? Or, Jagermiester?</p> <p>Or something completely different? Raunchy, sweet, & salty? Onion rings dipped in ketchup comes to mind. But, in liquid-form mixed with alcohol.</p> <p>None the less, it would be the most suitable beverage to toast with.</p> <p>As shots.</p> <p>Cheers!</p> I’m interested in knowing, what’s “Old Underwear”? Would be like absinthe? Or, Jagermiester?

Or something completely different? Raunchy, sweet, & salty? Onion rings dipped in ketchup comes to mind. But, in liquid-form mixed with alcohol.

None the less, it would be the most suitable beverage to toast with.

As shots.

Cheers!

]]> By: JimO http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12938 JimO Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:49:22 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12938 <p>Feel silly for not reading this story before and now I know where the Red Dwarf episode "Ouroboros" comes from. I thought the end passage was well written. Sometime I forget that Heinlein was a very good writer before his id/libido raged later in life.</p> Feel silly for not reading this story before and now I know where the Red Dwarf episode “Ouroboros” comes from. I thought the end passage was well written.
Sometime I forget that Heinlein was a very good writer before his id/libido raged later in life.

]]> By: Paul http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12934 Paul Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:49:39 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12934 <p>Typical Heinlein isn't it, while based upon a specific time and worldview, it also knocks the socks off convention and gets us to consider the characters and makes you scratch your head.</p> <p>a great choice. only thing I can add is: more Heinlein!</p> Typical Heinlein isn’t it, while based upon a specific time and worldview, it also knocks the socks off convention and gets us to consider the characters and makes you scratch your head.

a great choice. only thing I can add is: more Heinlein!

]]> By: Jacob http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12918 Jacob Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:06:53 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12918 <p>Thanks Steve, Now we can all say we’ve read Heinlein…though recently at the insistence of a work collauge I’ve broken down and finished reading Have Space Suite Will Travel, and I can now for curtain say I’m an instant fan…</p> <p>I chose this story All You Zombies as my story to share…I’ll report back if he’s brain leaks out he’s ear as I feel mine had at the completion of this story.</p> <p>Sincerely, The last fan of The Geek Dad Intro. Jacob From Texas</p> Thanks Steve,
Now we can all say we’ve read Heinlein…though recently at the insistence of a work collauge I’ve broken down and finished reading Have Space Suite Will Travel, and I can now for curtain say I’m an instant fan…

I chose this story All You Zombies as my story to share…I’ll report back if he’s brain leaks out he’s ear as I feel mine had at the completion of this story.

Sincerely, The last fan of The Geek Dad Intro.
Jacob From Texas

]]> By: Dave K. http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12917 Dave K. Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:43:36 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12917 <p><em>spoilers</em></p> <p>I have always loved these kind of time travel stories... but i have to admit it is a little bit of a letdown when the loop finally closes completely up... then the only mystery remaining is... where did it start?</p> spoilers

I have always loved these kind of time travel stories… but i have to admit it is a little bit of a letdown when the loop finally closes completely up… then the only mystery remaining is… where did it start?

]]> By: The Sofanauts » The Sofanauts No 12 http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12913 The Sofanauts » The Sofanauts No 12 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:48:48 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12913 <p>[...] EP 200: All You Zombies [...]</p> [...] EP 200: All You Zombies [...]

]]> By: BooHoo http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12912 BooHoo Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:08:23 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12912 <p>As much as it pleased me to be able to hear an oldie from the grokster, I could not get past the first two pronunciations of 'temporal' in order to finish listening. <em>sigh</em> It's so easy to look up a work you don't know, why not take some time? Find a really old dictionary. Should be easy w/ all that time travel equipment at hand.</p> As much as it pleased me to be able to hear an oldie from the grokster, I could not get past the first two pronunciations of ‘temporal’ in order to finish listening. sigh It’s so easy to look up a work you don’t know, why not take some time? Find a really old dictionary. Should be easy w/ all that time travel equipment at hand.

]]> By: besucher http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12909 besucher Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:34:37 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12909 <p>This story was a bit confusing, I could hardly get who's with who. But the speech at the end of the story was great and moving. Keep it up, Mr. Eley!</p> This story was a bit confusing, I could hardly get who’s with who. But the speech at the end of the story was great and moving. Keep it up, Mr. Eley!

]]> By: Dale McCoy, Jr. http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12906 Dale McCoy, Jr. Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:29:42 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12906 <p>As instructed, I blogged about it, Steve. I hope it helps bring new listeners. http://jonbrazer.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/listen-to-escapepod-org/ Dale McCoy, Jr. Jon Brazer Enterprises, President</p> As instructed, I blogged about it, Steve. I hope it helps bring new listeners. http://jonbrazer.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/listen-to-escapepod-org/
Dale McCoy, Jr.
Jon Brazer Enterprises, President

]]> By: Escape Pod’s 200th Episode – Heinlein’s All You Zombies http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12905 Escape Pod’s 200th Episode – Heinlein’s All You Zombies Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:19:50 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12905 <p>[...] to action from this week’s Escape Pod, I must encourage you to check out the show’s 200th episode, which features a story by Robert Heinlein. Heinlein is far and away my most beloved of science [...]</p> [...] to action from this week’s Escape Pod, I must encourage you to check out the show’s 200th episode, which features a story by Robert Heinlein. Heinlein is far and away my most beloved of science [...]

]]> By: MasterThief http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12903 MasterThief Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:42:34 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12903 <p>I had heard about this story but never read/heard it myself.</p> <p>Critics say this is one of Heinlein's best, and I'd believe it. Sure, some of the plot is thin on the science, but it's so well-written, punchy, and laugh out loud funny ("Women’s Hospitality Order Refortifying & Encouraging Spacemen"?) that I can't not like it.</p> <p>@Amy - the main character, like the Ouroboros, is basically infinite - he begins and ends with himself. So when he asked where all us zombies come from, it's probably because we have such a limited span of existence. Well, maybe not Heinlein. Anymore. ;)</p> I had heard about this story but never read/heard it myself.

Critics say this is one of Heinlein’s best, and I’d believe it. Sure, some of the plot is thin on the science, but it’s so well-written, punchy, and laugh out loud funny (“Women’s Hospitality Order Refortifying & Encouraging Spacemen”?) that I can’t not like it.

@Amy – the main character, like the Ouroboros, is basically infinite – he begins and ends with himself. So when he asked where all us zombies come from, it’s probably because we have such a limited span of existence. Well, maybe not Heinlein. Anymore. ;)

]]> By: Amy http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12902 Amy Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:41:28 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12902 <p>I read this story recently, I have no clue where. I love it.</p> <p>However, the part at the end when zombies were finally mentioned didn't really make sense to me... can someone explain that?</p> I read this story recently, I have no clue where. I love it.

However, the part at the end when zombies were finally mentioned didn’t really make sense to me… can someone explain that?

]]> By: BingoRage http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12899 BingoRage Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:08:23 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12899 <p>The ultimate time travel paradox storyline. A little weak on the character not recognising himselves/herselves; but necessary for the story to work, I suppose. :Eric</p> The ultimate time travel paradox storyline.
A little weak on the character not recognising himselves/herselves; but necessary for the story to work, I suppose.
:Eric

]]> By: scatterbrain http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12898 scatterbrain Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:03:00 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12898 <p>Strangely I was just about to read this one in the F&SF 30th Anniversary Special, but I'm glad I heard it in Steve Eley's talented and familiar narration first; good work!</p> Strangely I was just about to read this one in the F&SF 30th Anniversary Special, but I’m glad I heard it in Steve Eley’s talented and familiar narration first; good work!

]]> By: Motti http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12896 Motti Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:06:06 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12896 <p>I've always considered this to be the best time travel paradox story of all time, however hearing it now brings to light how much it's dated (not that I have ever read it before it had dated). This puts in in an interesting category of "anachronistic time travel stories".</p> I’ve always considered this to be the best time travel paradox story of all time, however hearing it now brings to light how much it’s dated (not that I have ever read it before it had dated). This puts in in an interesting category of “anachronistic time travel stories”.

]]> By: Duellist Origins http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12895 Duellist Origins Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:37:25 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12895 <p>I think some stories are too well-known for this podcast. I've listened to this so many times that I just skipped this episode.</p> <p>And I bet you didn't pay your usual rates for this. Something for other authors to consider.</p> I think some stories are too well-known for this podcast. I’ve listened to this so many times that I just skipped this episode.

And I bet you didn’t pay your usual rates for this. Something for other authors to consider.

]]> By: Anony http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12893 Anony Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:57:46 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12893 <p>At last it's here! I got sucked into it reading the description. Cant wait to listen to this at work.</p> At last it’s here!
I got sucked into it reading the description. Cant wait to listen to this at work.

]]> By: Julio http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12892 Julio Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:35:32 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12892 <p>Steve, episode 200 was awesome! I had read about this story, but had never actually read/heard it. Everything from the computer lady mix up, the story and outro was great!</p> Steve, episode 200 was awesome! I had read about this story, but had never actually read/heard it. Everything from the computer lady mix up, the story and outro was great!

]]> By: Lexicat http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12891 Lexicat Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:13:45 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12891 <p>Oh yeah, and I totally agree with Derrek: this story needed actual zombies!</p> Oh yeah, and I totally agree with Derrek: this story needed actual zombies!

]]> By: Gia http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12890 Gia Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:09:48 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12890 <p>I called most of the plot before hand. If Steve hadn't started off with "This has a time loop!" then it might not have been so predictable. It would have been a good regular episode, but it didn't meet the hype.</p> I called most of the plot before hand. If Steve hadn’t started off with “This has a time loop!” then it might not have been so predictable. It would have been a good regular episode, but it didn’t meet the hype.

]]> By: Ken_K http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12888 Ken_K Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:03:55 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12888 <p>A good blast from the past. How about moving on from all the time travel stuff for a while though? Just a thought.</p> A good blast from the past. How about moving on from all the time travel stuff for a while though? Just a thought.

]]> By: Jeff Weimer http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12887 Jeff Weimer Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:33:55 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12887 <p>I was right! Heinlein! And I haven't read this one before!</p> <p>And guys, keep the political stuff out. This isn't the place. Try HuffPo, or Redstate, depending on your inclination.</p> I was right! Heinlein! And I haven’t read this one before!

And guys, keep the political stuff out. This isn’t the place. Try HuffPo, or Redstate, depending on your inclination.

]]> By: Lexicat http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12886 Lexicat Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:23:35 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12886 <p>The gender change stuff was retarded. Which I say as a transsexual, and as a genderfuck. The gender roles of women, while somewhat normed to white women the US 1958, is not remotely forward looking with respect to the transformations in gender which were moving towards the social upheavals in gender of the 60s and 70s.</p> <p>The reduction of failed aspirations on the part of the young woman to physical appearance was just dumb.</p> <p>Bad choice for 200.</p> The gender change stuff was retarded. Which I say as a transsexual, and as a genderfuck. The gender roles of women, while somewhat normed to white women the US 1958, is not remotely forward looking with respect to the transformations in gender which were moving towards the social upheavals in gender of the 60s and 70s.

The reduction of failed aspirations on the part of the young woman to physical appearance was just dumb.

Bad choice for 200.

]]> By: L33tminion http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12885 L33tminion Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:08:17 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12885 <p>I <I>love</I> this story. Read it before, and was really glad to hear it on Escape Pod. I love time travel stories... plus solipsism isn't a philosophy you see played with that often in fiction.</p> I love this story. Read it before, and was really glad to hear it on Escape Pod. I love time travel stories… plus solipsism isn’t a philosophy you see played with that often in fiction.

]]> By: pmdhazy http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12882 pmdhazy Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:32:20 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12882 <p>Thanks for that - it is one story I have never forgotten since I read it and great to hear it again.</p> Thanks for that – it is one story I have never forgotten since I read it and great to hear it again.

]]> By: Spook http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12879 Spook Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:57:35 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12879 <p>Damn, no wonder this took so long. I'm impressed anyway, this is a classic!</p> <p>Thanks!</p> Damn, no wonder this took so long. I’m impressed anyway, this is a classic!

Thanks!

]]> By: Holiday http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12877 Holiday Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:31:51 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12877 <p>Considering when this story was originally written, this would have pushed some boundries.</p> Considering when this story was originally written, this would have pushed some boundries.

]]> By: Derrek http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12876 Derrek Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:02:25 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12876 <p>Theoretically, this story could only have one character. Also, I wanted zombies.</p> Theoretically, this story could only have one character. Also, I wanted zombies.

]]> By: Governor Sanford's soulmate http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12875 Governor Sanford's soulmate Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:05:35 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12875 <p>Like they say, Dick, reality has a well-known liberal bias. I guess they can say the same about fantastic literature.</p> Like they say, Dick, reality has a well-known liberal bias. I guess they can say the same about fantastic literature.

]]> By: Dick Gizinya http://escapepod.org/2009/07/02/ep-200-all-you-zombies/comment-page-1/#comment-12874 Dick Gizinya Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:34:48 +0000 http://escapepod.org/?p=407#comment-12874 <p>Well it's about time. Moderately impressed considering the unfailingly liberal mindset of this website.</p> Well it’s about time. Moderately impressed considering the unfailingly liberal mindset of this website.

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