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	<title>Comments on: EP096: Job Qualifications</title>
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	<description>The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine.  Each week Escape Pod delivers science fiction short stories from today&#039;s best authors.  Listen today, and hear the new sound of science fiction!</description>
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		<title>By: scatterbrain</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-9153</link>
		<dc:creator>scatterbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 12:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How ironic: The story is called Job Qualifications and he asks for a job at the end!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How ironic: The story is called Job Qualifications and he asks for a job at the end!</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6443</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I really enjoyed this story.  One slight observation - obviously this would have had to have been a very long-term plan, as all the clones seemed to be in their 20s or so when their memories were harvested.  So when Candidate Berthold was assured that they could create more clones if he wanted more experience - wouldn&#039;t he have to wait another 20+ years for them to come to maturity?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe there was some sort of rapid aging technology used with the clones?  But then that would have counterproductive, since the whole point was for the candidate to have so many different life experiences, right?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Still, this was a fun story.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed this story.  One slight observation &#8211; obviously this would have had to have been a very long-term plan, as all the clones seemed to be in their 20s or so when their memories were harvested.  So when Candidate Berthold was assured that they could create more clones if he wanted more experience &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t he have to wait another 20+ years for them to come to maturity?</p>
<p>Maybe there was some sort of rapid aging technology used with the clones?  But then that would have counterproductive, since the whole point was for the candidate to have so many different life experiences, right?</p>
<p>Still, this was a fun story.</p>
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		<title>By: Baus</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6442</link>
		<dc:creator>Baus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We could use 18 Ron Pauls.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Setty</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6439</link>
		<dc:creator>Setty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 03:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The story had a nice pay off--sort of the opposite of a shaggy dog story, but it took a long time to get there&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Steve Anderson&#039;s reading was a bit off. He read quickly and breathlessly as though it was an action piece with a fast pace and a constant sense of urgency. It wasn&#039;t.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anderson&#039;s breathless emphasis of EVery OTHer SYLLable Was VERy ANNOYing, like listening to a 1 Hz sine wave--if such a thing were possible.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story had a nice pay off&#8211;sort of the opposite of a shaggy dog story, but it took a long time to get there</p>
<p>Steve Anderson&#8217;s reading was a bit off. He read quickly and breathlessly as though it was an action piece with a fast pace and a constant sense of urgency. It wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Anderson&#8217;s breathless emphasis of EVery OTHer SYLLable Was VERy ANNOYing, like listening to a 1 Hz sine wave&#8211;if such a thing were possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah A</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6441</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;good story. I was a bit confused by the changes but once I realised what was happening at the end, I was sort of disappointed to see the story end so soon.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good story. I was a bit confused by the changes but once I realised what was happening at the end, I was sort of disappointed to see the story end so soon.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny9k</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6440</link>
		<dc:creator>johnny9k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I enjoyed the story.  There&#039;s a lot of talk of making clones for organ transplant so &#039;experience transplant&#039; is a logical leap.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Whether I enjoy a story or not, I ALWAYS enjoy Daikaiju!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed the story.  There&#8217;s a lot of talk of making clones for organ transplant so &#8216;experience transplant&#8217; is a logical leap.</p>
<p>Whether I enjoy a story or not, I ALWAYS enjoy Daikaiju!</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6438</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I enjoyed this story, but the question niggling in the back of my mind was,
Why didn‚Äôt any of the clones Notice that there was someone identical to them standing for election as president? One or two of them may have thought it was important for them to know or at least seen him (Self?) on the News.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well I guess we chalk this up to another logic whole, I Enjoyed the Story none the less.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Regards
Steve&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;p.s. monster Surf Rock Should Stay
:)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this story, but the question niggling in the back of my mind was,<br />
Why didn‚Äôt any of the clones Notice that there was someone identical to them standing for election as president? One or two of them may have thought it was important for them to know or at least seen him (Self?) on the News.</p>
<p>Well I guess we chalk this up to another logic whole, I Enjoyed the Story none the less.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Steve</p>
<p>p.s. monster Surf Rock Should Stay <img src='http://escapepod.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6437</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cute idea, but it felt to me like the story was longer than just the one idea could justify. I had suspicions about what was going on as clone after clone was named and described. I knew what was going on at the first mention of writhing. After that, the rest was just bare exposition of the idea, followed by extra story that didn&#039;t add anything and just made me think, &quot;Is there a twist coming?&quot;
Would that there was.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cute idea, but it felt to me like the story was longer than just the one idea could justify. I had suspicions about what was going on as clone after clone was named and described. I knew what was going on at the first mention of writhing. After that, the rest was just bare exposition of the idea, followed by extra story that didn&#8217;t add anything and just made me think, &#8220;Is there a twist coming?&#8221;<br />
Would that there was.</p>
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		<title>By: LightningEye</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6436</link>
		<dc:creator>LightningEye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The story raises some important philosophical questions if cloning ever becomes a proven technology. Should the clones share the same rights as naturally-born people do? Is it murder to kill your own clone? These answers have been raised before in other movies and shows, but what made this story unique was how it was intermingled with politics. As much as I detest the idea of what Berthold did, I can&#039;t help thinking it probably would happen if cloning was ever that reliable and memory transplants were commonplace.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;God forbid the voters ever find out though. Can you say &quot;clone scandal&quot;?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story raises some important philosophical questions if cloning ever becomes a proven technology. Should the clones share the same rights as naturally-born people do? Is it murder to kill your own clone? These answers have been raised before in other movies and shows, but what made this story unique was how it was intermingled with politics. As much as I detest the idea of what Berthold did, I can&#8217;t help thinking it probably would happen if cloning was ever that reliable and memory transplants were commonplace.</p>
<p>God forbid the voters ever find out though. Can you say &#8220;clone scandal&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Sunrider</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6435</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunrider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Story was good, though it presents an interesting moral debate (one I won&#039;t start).  I also thought the narration was fine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Daikaiju rocks.  I agree that it just wouldn&#039;t be Escape Pod without that music.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But Steve - you lost a perfectly good opportunity
&quot;The next Metacast will be coming up in . . . now + n&quot;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Story was good, though it presents an interesting moral debate (one I won&#8217;t start).  I also thought the narration was fine.</p>
<p>Daikaiju rocks.  I agree that it just wouldn&#8217;t be Escape Pod without that music.</p>
<p>But Steve &#8211; you lost a perfectly good opportunity<br />
&#8220;The next Metacast will be coming up in . . . now + n&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6434</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed this story, I felt the narration was appropriate for the story.

haiku:

Daikaiju we love
in Escape pod they should stay
as if set in stone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this story, I felt the narration was appropriate for the story.</p>
<p>haiku:</p>
<p>Daikaiju we love<br />
in Escape pod they should stay<br />
as if set in stone</p>
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		<title>By: emar</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6433</link>
		<dc:creator>emar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction: When ONE Berthold clone was being tortured...

Sorry for the typo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction: When ONE Berthold clone was being tortured&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry for the typo.</p>
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		<title>By: emar</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6432</link>
		<dc:creator>emar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great story, but I&#039;m afraid I didn&#039;t care for the narration, either. He seemed to be making artificial drama where there was none. When on Berthold clone was being tortured the drama made sense, but when another was simply pushing papers the heightened emotions felt quite forced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story, but I&#8217;m afraid I didn&#8217;t care for the narration, either. He seemed to be making artificial drama where there was none. When on Berthold clone was being tortured the drama made sense, but when another was simply pushing papers the heightened emotions felt quite forced.</p>
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		<title>By: Winsmith</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6431</link>
		<dc:creator>Winsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eeerie story. I was irritated very slightly once as the narrator seemingly tried to make even the description of the &quot;Happy Waiter&quot;-clone sound dramatic and suspenseful, which just didn&#039;t work. Other than that the story was really well read.

Oh and I don&#039;t mind Daikaiju :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eeerie story. I was irritated very slightly once as the narrator seemingly tried to make even the description of the &#8220;Happy Waiter&#8221;-clone sound dramatic and suspenseful, which just didn&#8217;t work. Other than that the story was really well read.</p>
<p>Oh and I don&#8217;t mind Daikaiju <img src='http://escapepod.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Loz</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6430</link>
		<dc:creator>Loz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t get rid of Daikaiju, Holmes needs his Watson and Kirk needs his Spock after all.

This was an enjoyable little story with a neat idea. With minimal editing it could have been broadcast over at Pseudopod, with the criminal clone taking control and going on a rampage but then, when you&#039;ve got Dick Cheney do you really need stories about elected officials going crazy and shooting people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t get rid of Daikaiju, Holmes needs his Watson and Kirk needs his Spock after all.</p>
<p>This was an enjoyable little story with a neat idea. With minimal editing it could have been broadcast over at Pseudopod, with the criminal clone taking control and going on a rampage but then, when you&#8217;ve got Dick Cheney do you really need stories about elected officials going crazy and shooting people?</p>
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		<title>By: Anemone Flynn</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6429</link>
		<dc:creator>Anemone Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the music; I was introduced to Daikaiju here and ended up buy one of their albums which I regularly listen to.

However, no matter what you do to the music bumpers, I doubt you can shake me.

Anemone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the music; I was introduced to Daikaiju here and ended up buy one of their albums which I regularly listen to.</p>
<p>However, no matter what you do to the music bumpers, I doubt you can shake me.</p>
<p>Anemone</p>
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		<title>By: Lar</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6428</link>
		<dc:creator>Lar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 04:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daikaiju stays, or I go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daikaiju stays, or I go.</p>
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		<title>By: DKT</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6427</link>
		<dc:creator>DKT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably goes without saying but please don&#039;t screw with the Daikaiju theme music</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably goes without saying but please don&#8217;t screw with the Daikaiju theme music</p>
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		<title>By: SFEley</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6426</link>
		<dc:creator>SFEley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.escapepod.org/2006/12/14/ep084-smooth-talking/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Smooth Talking&quot;&lt;/a&gt; for us near the end of last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve read <a href="http://www.escapepod.org/2006/12/14/ep084-smooth-talking/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Smooth Talking&#8221;</a> for us near the end of last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Cherolis</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6425</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Cherolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel Steve Anderson delivered a great reading. I&#039;m certain I&#039;ve heard him read before, can someone please remind me when he did and for what?

Don&#039;t mess with the Daikaiju. That song is a part of Escape Pod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel Steve Anderson delivered a great reading. I&#8217;m certain I&#8217;ve heard him read before, can someone please remind me when he did and for what?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t mess with the Daikaiju. That song is a part of Escape Pod.</p>
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		<title>By: vburn</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6424</link>
		<dc:creator>vburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed the story.  It was a little odd at first with the sudden changes, but I think that was in part due to the narration (which I really did not care for this episode) and probably works much better in print where the reader can change voice a little better and quicker.  It was a cool concept and well written.

Sorry to disrupt the conversational flow we had going, so let me say I enjoy the intro/outro music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed the story.  It was a little odd at first with the sudden changes, but I think that was in part due to the narration (which I really did not care for this episode) and probably works much better in print where the reader can change voice a little better and quicker.  It was a cool concept and well written.</p>
<p>Sorry to disrupt the conversational flow we had going, so let me say I enjoy the intro/outro music.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6423</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m never gonna get sick of it, personally. I&#039;d be upset if it changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m never gonna get sick of it, personally. I&#8217;d be upset if it changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sorcerer Mickey</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6422</link>
		<dc:creator>Sorcerer Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps LG is unfamiliar with the concept of a &quot;Theme Song&quot;?  It&#039;s a customary procedure in entertainment media - it allows for recognizable branding of a repeating presentation.
;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps LG is unfamiliar with the concept of a &#8220;Theme Song&#8221;?  It&#8217;s a customary procedure in entertainment media &#8211; it allows for recognizable branding of a repeating presentation. <img src='http://escapepod.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: LG</title>
		<link>http://escapepod.org/2007/03/08/ep096-job-qualifications/comment-page-1/#comment-6421</link>
		<dc:creator>LG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been listening to Escape Pod since Ep 11, and I have an announcement to make: I&#039;m tired of Daikaiju. So I have a possibly unpopular request -- Pick a new intro/outro track. I&#039;ve never been wild about it, but it really grates me these days.</description>
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